The DBT Informed Music Therapy Program
... is a specialized CMTE training for a small group of participants
to learn DBT's practical life skills and how to apply them in your music therapy practice.
The fall training starts on September 12th, 2022.
It is limited to 10 participants per cohort.
Your first step is to click the button below and apply for the program.
Completely revolutionize client outcomes and gain the respect of treatment teams worldwide through the power of a Music Therapy Approach utilizing Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT)!
Help your music therapy clients gain skills to:
- Get through Difficult Times
- Regulate Emotions
- Control Impulsive Behaviors
- Communicate Effectively
They'll be able to take the skills from your sessions into their real life.
As a Music Therapist...
You might find that when you use traditional music therapy practices with clients with impulsive behaviors and dysregulated emotions that you're not getting the results you do with your other clients, which leaves you feeling unsure about where to go next in your treatment and intervention planning to best support these clients, and wondering if you're doing it the right way. This experience can lead to:
- judging yourself
- being afraid that you don't have the knowledge or skills to help them regulate their emotions and behaviors.
- wondering if you can even achieve the next goal in their treatment plan.
- feeling isolated, burnt out, and frustrated.
You may think that your education could use more verbal processing skills and ways to deal with emotions.
When you reach out to other professionals on the treatment team, if you're like many music therapists, you are often not recognized as the true professional you are. Other disciplines seem to see you as merely fun entertainment.
Even if you work within a DBT based facility, you don’t quite know how to fit in as a music therapist. You want to provide the best services, so you seek new ideas and strategies to implement DBT with music therapy.
You feel like there are times that you need skills to cope through difficult situations yourself. You realize that your ability to help yourself directly impacts your effectiveness as a therapist.
Introducing the Spiegel Academy's
DBT Informed Music Therapy Training Program!
The Spiegel Academy's DBT Informed Music Therapy Program offers you a toolkit of skills that not only are massively effective for the patient...
... but also can lead to a lot more respect and opportunity for you as the therapist!
It's a win for the patient, and a win for you.
Your patients experience a powerful, ground-breaking set of skills to help them:
- cope through difficult times
- regulate their emotions
- make wiser behavioral choices
- improve their communication skills
PLUS, you get to facilitate the process and receive the trust and respect you deserve!
What's Possible as a Trained DBT Informed Music Therapist
When you're working with clients with impulsive behaviors and dysregulated emotions, you know exactly what kind of support to give them to make lasting changes they can bring into the rest of their world.
You also have the skills to cope through difficult situations in your own life. We all know, being a music therapist can be stressful for so many reasons.
One of those reasons is how you are perceived by the treatment team you work with. Knowing a common language and demonstrating success with client outcomes allows others to more readily recognize you as a part of that team.
And...in completing this program you earned 100 CMTEs and an endorsement as a music therapist who has demonstrated competency in DBT informed practice!
"This DBT informed Music Therapist training has been profoundly beneficial both personally and professionally. My intention was to learn tools to use with my clients, which I have, and the supervision has been priceless. The bonus to me is being able to implement the skills myself and how it has improved my own life."
Betsey Carle MT-BC
Join the movement as we combine DBT skills with music therapy to help your clients
"build a life worth living!"
Peggy Tileston, Clinical Training Coordinator at Temple University in Philadelphia, has this to say about the training:
Working in a psych hospital I was interested in learning more about DBT. I read Deborah's book, and even brought her out to the East Coast for a 3 day workshop, and I realized that I needed more in-depth training.
So when the DBT informed Music Therapy Program opened up, I took the training.
Here are 4 reasons I'd like to encourage you to also take the training:
- 1. Personal Integrity from going through the processes yourself
- 2. Impressive level of clinical supervision as you work DBT into your practice
- 3. Going through program with a cohort of peers, resourcing one another in a like- minded community
- 4. CMTEs
The Power of Integrating DBT in your Music Therapy Practice
Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT), is an evidence-based treatment model utilizing skills-training in the areas of mindfulness, distress tolerance, emotion regulation, and interpersonal effectiveness to strengthen change.
- Integrating this entire toolbox of skills into your music therapy gives you the ability to help all of your patients/clients through any difficult situation in their life.
- As a music therapist you can add a dimension to the way the clients learn, practice, and remember DBT's practical life skills so patients actually use the skills in their lives when they need them.
- Originally known for its effectiveness in working with patients with borderline personality disorder, DBT has now been shown to be beneficial for numerous populations and settings including schools, hospitals, mental health, addiction recovery, hospice, and more.
- DBT skills are useful in our own lives as well!
Imagine learning the secret to
...being able to articulate to your treatment team using common (DBT) terminology and language, being perceived as a professional peer, and easily collaborating with team members in providing treatment.
...having a repertoire of effective coping skills to pull out of a hat on a moment’s notice...knowing you're providing an evidence based tried and true system you can adapt to your own clientele... having an effective toolkit that works with clients with impulsive behaviors, diysregulated emotions, lack of coping skills, and/or poor interpersonal skills!
Gain effective tools to create a brighter future!
The DBT Informed Music Therapy Training Program is only open twice a year.
The next start date is September 12th, 2022.
It's limited to 10 participants per cohort.
Your first step is to apply for the program.
Have you ever found yourself doing this?
Often when therapists are faced with a client with impulsive behaviors and dysregulated emotions, they realize they don't have the specific training to handle the situation. So they rush to get a variety of books, spend hours looking for research and interventions, and even more hours in trial and error trying to combine DBT with their music therapy sessions. But for most people, that's not efficient or effective.
- They don’t have an evidence based tried and true system they can adapt to their own clientele.
- They don’t have a repertoire of coping skills to pull out of a hat on a moment’s notice when clients are in crisis.
- They don’t know how to communicate effectively with members of the treatment team using common DBT terminology and language, so collaboration is difficult.
- Even if they are working inside of a DBT program and have awareness of skills, they are spending hours trying to figure out how to apply DBT with music therapy.
In the DBT Informed Music Therapy Training Program You Can Expect:
- Gain a complete and thorough study of DBT skills with music therapy applications so that you'll have a repertoire of coping skills to support your clients and yourself.
- Learn an evidence based tried and true system that you can adapt to your own clientele and make a greater impact.
- Be able to teach DBT skills, in the context of music therapy sessions or even as coleader in DBT skills training groups.
- Have a year of professional supervision as you implement all you are learning with your clients, so you gain confidence in applying it through music therapy.
- Become comfortable using the DBT terminology and collaborating with other clinicians so that you can share ideas and strategies to improve client outcomes.
- Be able to to communicate with related fields more effectively and plan groups in coordination with them within the structure of DBT so your skills are valued.
- Be able to effectively help patients you serve to manage crises and their own emotions, thoughts, behaviors, and actions to be more stable and avoid having to return to the hospital.
- Attract new clients and income by approaching and joining existing DBT programs, or by using DBT on your own in your private practice
- Gain the educational essentials to maintain high standards of excellence in your professional practice
- Feel confident in your role as a DBT informed Music Therapist so you know how to fit into a DBT milieu &/or how to utilize DBT in your own music therapy practice
- Know what the skills are so you know what steps to take when your clients present with a variety of issues and behaviors.
- Know how to create effective music therapy interventions within the DBT framework and watch your clients learn and remember skills to help them in their lives.
- Effectively create and implement MT interventions to support and reinforce the DBT skills the patients are learning
- Be able to present other professionals and those in charge with a credential from the Spiegel Academy with the designation of DBT informed Music Therapist that demonstrates a working knowledge of DBT
- Earn 100 CMTE credits
"This is a very well put together program and the instructors are impressively knowledgeable- at the top of their game."
I learned a new skill set that I had never learned before in school or anywhere. The DBT skills are very useful and applicable with all populations. Being able to have all the skills for mindfulness, distress tolerance, emotion regulation and interpersonal effectiveness to integrate into my music therapy has helped me address behavior, emotion regulation and communication issues with my clients."
Rachael Williams MT-BC
Who Are the Experts Providing
DBT Informed Music Therapy Training?
Director & Founder
Deborah Spiegel MT-BC
Hi. I was introduced to DBT in 2001 when working at the state hospital on a DBT team. I received training from Behavioral Tech as part of the treatment team, and gained 11 years of experience as a DBT skills group leader in that workplace. Inspired by my experience of being a music therapist on a DBT team, I started offering training for music therapists. I am now known as a leading expert in the field of DBT Informed Music Therapy. I've spoken, presented workshops, and delivered trainings on music therapy and DBT skills nationwide since 2009.
Director of The Spiegel Academy, author of Creative DBT Activities Using Music: Interventions for Enhancing Engagement and Effectiveness in Therapy, (with Lauren Bonavitacola and Suzanne Makary) I am passionate about supporting music therapists in integrating DBT into their work to expand the reach of our profession into this arena.
Since the time that I was first introduced to DBT, the amount of research on DBT and its effectiveness with various populations has exploded as has the popularity of its use. The need for trained music therapists in this field is growing which is why I created this training program and have run it for so many years. As the program has expanded I've brought in a team of experts to support music therapist who participate in the program, supervising their learning of DBT and applying it in their practice.
Supervising Clinician
Lauren Bonavitacola, PsyD, MT-BC
... has been providing supervision and training for participants in our DBT Informed Music Therapy Program since 2012.
Dr. Bonavitacola is a psychologist, DBT-Linehan Board of Certification Certified Clinician™, and board-certified music therapist and has worked for many years for Cognitive & Behavioral Consultants of Westchester and Manhattan (CBC), an outpatient CBT- and DBT-based treatment, training, and consultation center. She was the Director of Trauma-Focused Treatment Programs at CBC, working with adolescents, adults, couples, families, and schools. She now has her own practice.
Dr. Bonavitacola has expertise and specialized training in the delivery of evidence-based treatments for anxiety, mood, substance use, eating, and personality disorders across the lifespan. She specializes in the implementation of Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) for Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) and associated conditions, as well as CBT for anxiety and mood disorders, particularly Posttraumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) in adolescents and adults.
Skills Group Facilitator
Suzanne Makary, MT-BC
...is a Board- Certified Music Therapist who facilitates experiential DBT skills training groups for participants of the DBT Informed Music Therapy program.
She has spent her career serving adults with mental health challenges. She completed her internship in 1997 at Allentown State Hospital. Since that opportunity, Suzanne has worked with an interdisciplinary team in the Partial Hospitalization setting.
Throughout her journey as a professional, Suzanne designs and leads daily music therapy groups to assist in learning and reaching wellness goals with her clients. She found Linehan’s work inspiring and used concepts to help frame her work.
In 2017, Suzanne completed the yearlong “DBT Informed Music Therapy” Program through The Spiegel Academy. As a DBT-Informed music therapist, Suzanne has created a curriculum for the Innovations Partial Hospital Program at St. Luke’s University Health Network focused on teaching DBT skills daily. Which is why she was excited to come back and share not just the skills, but also what she has done with what she has learned since completing the program, with participants of the DBT informed Music Therapy Training.
Facilitating DBT Clinicians
Ethan Lechner LCSWA, PhD
...is an intensively trained DBT therapist, who is here for answering all of your DBT questions as you study the skills in the Training Program. He works with Guilford Counseling, PLLC, in Greensboro, NC. He holds a Masters of Social Work and a PhD in Musicology and is also a teacher of Buddhist meditation.
Ethan has experience working with clients recovering from trauma and experiencing loss and health changes. In his first years of practice, he worked primarily with the elderly in various settings, and now works with clients of various ages and backgrounds. He loves the depth and adaptability of the DBT skills kit. In his therapy practice he is committed to meeting clients in a deeply person-centered, collaborative process.
Bailey Hinz, MA, MT-BC
...is a Board Certified Music Therapist, currently furthering her education in Social Work. She is a DBT Informed music therapist, and is here to support participants as they learn and apply the skills.
While earning a bachelor’s degree in music from North Central College, she spent summers as a camp counselor, an experience which inspired her to further pursue work in a helping profession.
In 2013, Bailey received her master’s degree in music therapy from Colorado State University; her graduate thesis was on the utilization of therapeutic music for young women with negative body perception and disordered eating.
Bailey has had the opportunity to work with a variety of populations including mental health, at risk youth, substance abuse, veterans’ needs, hospice, autism spectrum, developmental disability, and diseases of aging. Her greatest passion and life’s purpose, however, lies in mental/ behavioral health. She loves incorporating music and other creative arts to affect meaningful change in the lives of individuals she serves.
To continue her growth as a clinician, Bailey received her designation as a DBT informed Music Therapist through Behavioral Tech and The Spiegel Academy in 2017. She is passionate about DBT and music therapy and is excited to support you in your application of the skills in your life and your practice.
Remember when you got frustrated with those difficult clients...
...you felt unsure of your abilities, ...
...you wished you had new skills to use, ...
...you tried to figure it out by yourself, ...
...you got burnt out and fatigued, ...
...and you felt alone with the struggle?
What if you never had to deal with any of this again because you could confidently apply this evidence based system to support your clients? Imagine the huge impact on your clients lives, your own life, and your business opportunities!
The DBT Informed Music Therapy Training Program is only open twice a year.
The next start date is September 12th, 2022.
It is limited to 10 participants at a time.
Apply now to claim a seat.
This DBT Informed Music Therapy Program Worked for These People, and It Will Work for You Too
"The DBT Informed Music Therapy Program I completed at the Spiegel Academy is the best music therapy training I have ever taken..."
"I not only earned 100 CMTEs in a year, for a very comparable price I might add, but I now also have a credential and an effective evidence based skillset to use with a wide variety of populations."
Stephen King MT-BC
"I indeed learned common language to use so that I am better able to communicate with other therapists ."
Diana Gross MT-BC
"Since taking the training from The Spiegel Academy, I developed a DBT skills group with the psychologist. We did research to show the effectiveness of combining music therapy with traditional skills training. "
Lindsey Landeck MT-BC
"I am very excited to see the partnership of DBT skills and MT interventions emerge as what is sure to be a frontrunner in best practices of care."
Kirsten Sorensen, MT-BC
What You'll Get when you enroll in the DBT Informed Music Therapy Program
01
Explore the basics for a confident start
DBT: Practical Life Skills Reinforced through Music Therapy
- A music therapist's view of the skills studied in the first edition of Marsha Linehan's DBT Skills training manual.
- Get many MT interventions from the self-study webinar to teach and reinforce DBT skills that you can use with your clients right away.
- Begin to learn the language of DBT so you can communicate better with a DBT team
- 10 credits ( Value $250 included )
02
Mindfulness is at the core of everything DBT
Music and Mindfulness in Clinical Applications
- Create self awareness and manage symptoms with techniques you'll learn in this self-study webinar.
- 8 credits ( Value $200 included)
03
Deep Dive so DBT Skills Become a Foundation of your Treatment
In-Depth DBT Skills Study with Music Therapy Applications and Supervision
- Explore deeply all the DBT material, starting with the 2nd edition DBT Skills Training Manual so you really understand each skill.
- Experience a DBT Skills Study Group yourself as a participant and learn how to lead your own DBT skills groups.
- Practice using DBT skills in your own life and become a role model for those around you.
- Know how to create effective music therapy interventions within the DBT framework
- Receive supervision as you apply the DBT material into your music therapy with your clients so you can get your questions answered and learn how to apply the skills in your particular setting.
- 82 credits ( Value $3499 included )
04
Plan, Create, & Execute to Take Your Skills to the Next Level
- After completing all of the above requirements, you will demonstrate a working knowledge of DBT Informed MT by completing a case study assignment write up of DBT informed music therapy practices with a client of your choice.
- Get support in learning to use DBT informed MT to solve specific issues with your particular clients.
- Learn new ideas and strategies as you brainstorm with your group
- Have a repertoire of coping skills to pull out of a hat on a moment’s notice to support your clients
- Leave with a working knowledge of DBT Informed MT to enhance your professional skills.
- (Value $2000 included )
05
Credential so others Recognize your Skills
- Professional development and uplevel to your career
- Affirms completion of all requirements
- Endorses you as a DBT Informed Music Therapist
- (Value Priceless)
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
We've got A's for your Q's
Q-Are any of you certified by DBT-LBC?
Yes, Lauren Bonavitacola, PsyD, MT-BC, is a psychologist, DBT-Linehan Board of Certification Certified Clinician™, and board-certified music therapist. Ethan Lechner LCSWA, PhD is also an intensively trained DBT clinician.
Q- Will I be able to run DBT skills groups as a result of this training?
The multiple layers of this program give you the ground work to learn, understand, and apply DBT skills in your practice. The curriculum is designed to delve into DBT skills straight from Linehan’s work through independent reading, working the skills step by step to deepen ways to understand, practice verbiage to teach them, explore personal use in a skills-training group like setting, and practice application as a music therapist. Supervision rounds out the training over several months to solidify and strengthen confidence in teaching DBT skills in your music therapy practice in meaningful application.
Q-How much time will it take?
About 6-8 hours a month.
The first month is for completing the self-study classes.
Month 2-6 the schedule is tightly planned with weekly meetings (Monday nights) and monthly assignments for learning the skills and how to implement them through music therapy.
For the following 6 months there is more flexibility in your schedule to complete your case report and attend monthly supervision meetings with Dr. Bonavitacola. Also during this second half of the year, you can attend the bonus breakout sessions for your group to practice choosing skills for certain circumstances and how you would use music therapy to implement the skills. You can attend the monthly DBT consultation group for music therapists for deepening your applications of the skills.
Q-Is there any research on DBT and music therapy?
Lauren Bonavitacola wrote about research in the introduction to the book Creative DBT Activities Using Music: Interventions for Enhancing Engagement and Effectiveness in Therapy. You can read what she wrote here.
In a recent study completed at Kalamazoo Psychiatric Hospital, a music therapist and a psychologist compared traditional DBT skills groups with skills training that included music therapy. The results on client outcomes were favorable for music. The results will be released in the Journal of Music Therapy. Until then all the details can’t be released.
Q-Does DBT only apply to borderline personality disorder?
No. DBT has been shown to be effective with a wide range of diagnosis and settings including but not limited to schools, prisons, addiction recovery, and mental health. PLUS people use DBT skills with children, adults, adolescents, seniors, in hospice, with hospital staff, for wellness, for self development, and with a variety of abilities.
DBT works for many different populations. See what these music therapists say about their experiences.
"I was burnt out, not really knowing what direction to go with the kids.
Not having any contact with other music therapists at all I was at a loss so I really appreciated talking to people in person, asking questions, bringing situations to the group for input, and hearing everyone's advice helped me a lot.
Bringing it back to the kids, and using it on myself has helped a lot with difficulties in sessions. This is definitely something they need and I was able to adapt it like I adapt anything I do with them."
Chelsea Josephson MT-BC
MT in Residential Treatment for Children with Cognitive Delays & Challenging Behaviors
" I'm grateful for having to be accountable... on a personal level, to do work I needed to do helped me feel in integrity.
And on a professional level, I loved the opportunity to work with and collaborate with DBT skills trainers and try out different ways to be using music with the skills."
Peggy Tileston MT-BC
MT Clinical Training Coordinator, Temple University
"This training refreshed me with a lot of new ideas, a new direction, and a good understanding.
I really appreciated not just reading about it, but the videos and the live feedback."
It was very validating because sometimes being the only music therapist you feel on an island by yourself."
Suzanne Makary MT-BC
Adult Acute Mental Health Partial Hospitalization Program
"I LOVE DBT skills. They are helpful for anybody on so many levels.
This program really helped me be reminded what the skills are and what they mean and many ways to use them with music.
It helped me expand my thinking and my creativity."
Victoria Mierlak MT-BC
Adolescent Residential Care: Mental Health w/ Criminal Charges
Q-Is this worth it for me?
Having this skillset is a really important way to expand the way you can help your clients. When you invest in yourself its going to apply to not only to any clinical work that you do but to help you in your own life. You can be a role model for people in your life and watch the impact you make.
Take this entire program NOW for only $2997
or $297/month for 12 months.
(for 100 CMTEs, specialized training, and individual attention!)
This program won't be open again til next year.
There is an additional investment for the following Course Materials (books) which are not included in registration fees:
*Skills Training Manual for Treating Borderline Personality Disorder
*DBT® Skills Training Manual, Second Edition
*DBT Worksheets and Handouts
Creative DBT Activities Using Music: Interventions for Enhancing Engagement and Effectiveness in Therapy
* = Required
*** This program is for clinicians who already hold a credential
as a Board Certified Music Therapist and is limited to 10 participants per cohort ***
Hundreds of people like you have invested in our DBT Informed MT classes since 2011. We know that if you enroll and participate in this entire program, and apply yourself, you will be thrilled with the results. If you find that this program doesn’t feel like a good fit for you, you have 48 hours after the first day of starting the first class to get 100% of your money back. After that time, you will be able to transfer to any other classes of your choice of the same credit value from our catalog. No hassle.
You have nothing to lose, and so much to gain!
Bonus #1
One FREE year of Membership
in the DBT Music Therapy Resource Hub- Value over $1000
If you're wondering if you'll have time to come up with new interventions and session plans, when you join the training you'll get a year of access to this members only resource library full of ready-made music therapy session materials for each skill to help you SAVE TIME with session planning.
Bonus #2-
Supervised Group Practice- Value $1800- YOURS FREE
After you've done the deep dive and have studied and learned all of the DBT skills, now it will be time for supervised practice in deciding what skills to use in a given situation. Master the skills and build your confidence in creating on the spot music therapy applications for those skills.
Bonus #3-
Modified DBT Class - Value $ 700-YOURS FREE
The third bonus will help you meet the specific needs and abilities of clients with intellectual disabilities. This bonus is an additional 28 CMTE credit class which adapts DBT for Clients With Intellectual Disabilities and Challenging Behaviors
Bonus #4-
FREE ticket to our virtual retreat - Value $197-YOURS FREE
In this online retreat, you'll hear presentations from other DBT informed music therapists, that are full of new ideas and strategies for implementing DBT with music therapy for a variety of populations. Your chance to hear from experts and to meet each other in a live community event.
Bonus #5-
Online Community Feedback - Value over $1200
After you implement your interventions, you get to debrief them with our team, so you are continuously leveling up with each time you implement. You'll have access to community conversations and announcements- a place to interact with others in the program, get resources, and ask questions in our PRIVATE forum (which is only accessible to other group members.)
Limited to 10 participants per cohort.
Stand out
in your field!
It's Decision Time!
This is your opportunity!
You never again have to WONDER if there's something more you can do for your clients. No more frustration with difficult clients, feeling unsure of your abilities, wishing you had new skills to use, trying to figure it out by yourself, getting burned out and fatigued, and feeling alone with the struggle.
This is your chance to be able to learn new skillsets that are going to
- help your CLIENTS regulate their emotions and fine tune their lives
- help YOU feel more competent, have skills for enhancing your own life
- help you PROFESSIONALLY be recognized by other disciplines, grow your stream of clients and income, and expand your impact.
Take a new action, and get a new result.
Take the leap...
... jump in...
... and join the movement as we combine DBT Skills with music therapy to support those we serve to build a life worth living!
What do you really want for yourself?
Your clients?
Your business?
THE DBT INFORMED MUSIC THERAPY TRAINING IS VALUED AT OVER $10,000!
Take this entire program NOW for only $2997
or $297/month for 12 months.
(for 100 CMTEs, specialized training, and individual attention!)
This program won't be open again til next year.
There is an additional investment for the following Course Materials (books) which are not included in registration fees:
*Skills Training Manual for Treating Borderline Personality Disorder
*DBT® Skills Training Manual, Second Edition
*DBT Worksheets and Handouts
Creative DBT Activities Using Music: Interventions for Enhancing Engagement and Effectiveness in Therapy
* = Required
*** This program is for clinicians who already hold a credential
as a Board Certified Music Therapist and is limited to 10 participants per cohort ***
Hundreds of people like you have invested in our DBT Informed MT classes since 2011. We know that if you enroll and participate in this entire program, and apply yourself, you will be thrilled with the results. If you find that this program doesn’t feel like a good fit for you, you have 48 hours after the first day of starting the first class to get 100% of your money back. After that time, you will be able to transfer to any other classes of your choice of the same credit value from our catalog. No hassle.
You have nothing to lose, and so much to gain!
Here's what to do now...
Click the "Apply Here " button below to apply for the Fall program 2022.
- We only take 10 participants per cohort. so complete your application now
- We will then talk on the phone to answer any questions you have.
- If you're selected as one of the 10 you can get started right away with the self study classes- part 1 DBT: Practical Life Skills Reinforced through Music Therapy and part 2 Mindfulness and Music in Clinical Practice. You can start attending the consultation group zoom meeting on the last Monday of the month and you'll be invited to the virtual retreat on September 18th as well.
Orientation for the In-depth Skills Study with Music Therapy Applications and Supervision, where you'll meet the team and dive into the weekly zoom classes, is October 17th, and you'll want to have the self study work completed prior to that.
Not sure? Still on the fence? Want to learn more ...
Schedule a time on my calendar and we can decide together what your next best step is on your DBT in MT journey.
I look forward to meeting you!
Deborah Spiegel
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